So now we know. 21 mp. HD movie mode and ISO up to 25,600. It would appear that's now possible to shoot a black cat in a coal cellar.

Can I have one please, body only. £2300, I'd much rather they take a away the HD movie mode and reduce the cost to sub £1500 

Yay, it does video. Video, the new liveview....

Canon, thank you for gadgeting up your high end range. Now instead of framed pictures, we can hang dvd discs instead. Still 10 videos on "You've been framed" and you're all paid for.

 Anyone else not impressed with the way that cameras are becoming less, well, camera like?

 And it's still £300 more than the non-video toting Sony A900 Harry!

Well guys, this thread has been great sport, lucky the camera is too expensive for me, anyway I have a toaster, a kettle, an alarm clock, a TV and .... although not the 40DD model, she does a fair attempt at ironing and looks great in a tight top!

Carl is obviously not impressed with the thought of video in his DSLR and somewhat sceptical of liveview it seems, so maybe my consideration of camera choice should revert to A300/350 again!

So sorry abaout your car and camera Sharon, you must be devastated by the double whammy.........

Thanks again for the good (almost) clean fun,

Clive  

Well I just love the new 5D mk2 video and liveview it's saved me 0ver £1500.

Liveview and video may be the way forward for modern DSLRS, but it's not for me, so instead of looking at cameras I'll look at holiday brochures instead. Anyone fancy the galapagos islands meet.

Clive, I use liveview regularly with the A300 - where the tiltable screen makes it usuable while I'm in the field (literally in fields!). Speed of use with the Sony means I can drop the camera down to ground level, screen tilted up, get a shot of some insect usually, and not a) get mud all over me and b) break my back! Canon and Nikon have fixed screens which limit that usefulness, and their use of liveview, with the mirror flip, focus, mirror drop, shoot, means that spur of the moment shots can be missed. It's a different approach, and not always best for every shooter.

Video in the D90 I can accept - it's an enthusiast model. The 5DII is supposed to be a pro body, and to be honest, I feel the video function (can't say I know too much about Canon's version - does it AF or is it manual focus like Nikon?) is not the sort of feature its target market would really require. I believe most people looking at the 5DII would have preferred no video and a £500 price drop.

Clive, I use liveview regularly with the A300 - where the tiltable screen makes it usuable while I'm in the field (literally in fields!). Speed of use with the Sony means I can drop the camera down to ground level, screen tilted up, get a shot of some insect usually, and not a) get mud all over me and b) break my back! Canon and Nikon have fixed screens which limit that usefulness, and their use of liveview, with the mirror flip, focus, mirror drop, shoot, means that spur of the moment shots can be missed. It's a different approach, and not always best for every shooter.

Video in the D90 I can accept - it's an enthusiast model. The 5DII is supposed to be a pro body, and to be honest, I feel the video function (can't say I know too much about Canon's version - does it AF or is it manual focus like Nikon?) is not the sort of feature its target market would really require. I believe most people looking at the 5DII would have preferred no video and a £500 price drop.

Carl only maual focus on video, I've had a look at a few clips and it looks very impressive, but it's not for me. Personally I think they've made a major Boo Boo.

Harry, does it then become shovelware? Something added to make the tech sheet look good?

And I think you've proved my point. A videoless £1600 5D with the remaining specs may well have bust your bank balance to land in your kit bag!

I think you guys are right. At the present price it sits and rivals the Nikon D3 and it has to be a heck of a camera to beat that. At £1600 it is against the D700 which makes more sense. Unless the mark 2 is better or equal to the 1ds etc.

A couple of years ago this was Nikon territory in playing catch up with the rivals. No doubt in a couple of years it will be the other way around again, it can only be good for us photographers.